![]() And so that kind of closeness with the Microsoft technology gives us the ability on the design side to do that. You can imagine, if you were like thousands of years ago and you’re talking to the first Roman engineer who’s designing a road, and you’re talking to him about, what do they see roads are going to be able to do and how difficult is it to make them? And how do you decide how wide they are? What type of grade do they go up and down? Being able to understand those questions means that you could then go and plot out highway systems, map them out for all of Europe, long before they’re able to build them. Being able to talk to an engineer or the Microsoft product team about how things are architected and the journey that that sets up for the platform or that particular product is… it’s amazing. But now, especially I’m really interested in the new emerging stuff that is coming out for workplace experiences, that’s where I’ve been focusing on the years. Does that mean like being closer to the implementation technologies? Where the building hits the streetĪustin: Yeah, I guess that’s being the proxy of the developers or technical architects you work with. Jorge: Yeah, I’m fascinated by this phrase, “being closer to the stuff that you’re working with.” I think that’s how you phrased it. And then a lot of it is just digital marketing stuff that sits on top of something like Adobe Experience or just gorgeous websites or apps. The more things you can do, the more things you can see to do with it, that other people don’t necessarily see. But, as with any design, the closer you are to the actual physical stuff that you’re molding, the better you are. So you could be… from the design perspective, we are just on a platform. So they have, servers and middleware and databases and front end frameworks. At this point especially though, Microsoft is really just become just a big platform. ![]() Jorge: When I hear “Microsoft stuff,” does that mean that it’s mostly for internal systems, for the internal systems of companies? Stuff like SharePoint?Īustin: That’s a common perception for sure, right? And that was definitely my perception when I started. So, usually I just go with the easy user experience lead, as kind of how I introduce myself. But I work at a global consultancy called Avanade, and I lead kind of cross-functional teams and we design products and services and strategy for you know, big enterprises that kind of focus on Microsoft stuff. And every year I take great pride in putting information architect as my career on my tax form. How do you introduce yourself to folks who you’ve never met? About AustinĪustin: Well, you know, it’s just about tax season right now. But many folks listening in will not be familiar with you. Jorge: We were just talking before we started recording, saying that we’ve known each other for a long time. TranscriptĪustin: Yeah, I’m excited to be here. I get a small commission for purchases made through these links. Show notes include Amazon affiliate links.
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